Friday, 4 May 2012

Adolf Hitler in a speech in 1927

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Adolf Hitler in a speech in 1927:


"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions." 


This is instructive but the debate about whether the Nazis were right-wing or left-wing is barren. They were neither. This discussion is about contemporary American politics, not about history.


Right means (if you go back to the French Revolution, where the terms originated) traditional. The Nazis were not traditionalist or comservatives in any sense, nor left wing in any useful sense. 

By the way, no American is a conservative - conservatives like monarchy, union of church and state, hierarchy, do not believe in progress or that human beings are good. The American conservatives were tragic heroes who were killed or driven out or suppressed in the Revolution. American 'conservatives' are right-wing liberals which is a good thing to be,  but not conservative.

8 comments:

  1. Syncretism is the best word to describe Nazism. Valentin Dimitrov

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  2. Depends on your definition of right-left. If you take Communists as the standard, and they are Left, then yes, the fascists were Right-wing, as they were to the right of the Communists, But that is an utterly arbitrary, contrived and stacked-deck way of determining a true scale. A true scale should be based upon fundamental political belief, of which I see only two options, hence a true dichotomy - freedom vs, Statism. On that basis, on the Left you will have Communism, fascism slightly to the right of that but definitely heavily on the Statist (Left) side. The other extreme would be anarchism with no State, and to the Left of that, Constitutional Republican government, with a small, controlled, limited State. That is the true scale. The Nazis would be very far to the Left, but just to the right of the Communists. Bruce Moon

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  3. No utterly mistaken: though I believe passionately in freedom and hate statism these things are irrelevant. Right means (if you go back to the French Rev where the terms originated) traditional. The Nazis were not traditionalist or comservatives in any sense nor left wing in the sense of wanting to change things. No American is a conservative - conservatives like monarchy, union of church and state, hierarchy, do not believe in progress or that human beings are good. The American conservatives were killed or driven out or suppressed in the Revolution.

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  4. You referred to the French assembly as the origin of the Right-Left divide. On the right sat the Girondists whose descendent would be considered the classical liberals, or conservatives of today. On the Left, were the atheisist jacobins, indoctrinated with Rousseau, whose intelectual descendants are Leftists-Statists today. I think that is very clear and indisputable.

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  5. Yes you are better informed than I - but we can agree I think that classical liberals, although nowadays considered very right-wing, are really liberals not conservatives. I have much sympathy with classical liberalism but in the last analysis I do not believe in national self-determination or the rights of man from which stem the evils of feminism socialism etc As Christians we must submit to those in authority placed over us by Almighty God surely?

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  6. They are classical liberals. The Statists co-opted the term so it is not accurate as an exact term. Neither is "conservative." In one way, classical liberals are both conservative and liberal, conservative in the sense of belief in universal, God-given law and historic Christian principles such as man's sin nature and man's God-likeness nobility. They are "liberal" in the sense of believing in human rights, freedom, and limited government.

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  7. Conservatism is not about freedom incredibly important though freedom is but about tradition, hierarchy and the power of the state and the ruling class.


    I think..

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  8. It's perfectly possible to criticise capitalism from the right, as Marx long ago explained in the chapter on 'reactionary socialism' in the Manifesto, particularly when you have a blood and soil ideology that idealises precapitalist modes of production. I guess H was just joking with all that stuff about 'Jewish Bolshevism', and that he sent all those trade unionists to Dachau for the good of their health. Thomas Tallon

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