Wednesday, 28 September 2016

An American Lysistrata: Break Up With That Trump Supporter

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Please click on this extraordinary article in Time magazine, the well-respected and famous American magazine. It is worth it. 

A lawyer and feminist called Jill Filipovic, who sounds like an invention of the late Michael Wharton, advises her readers to leave boyfriends who intend to vote for Donald Trump. Not to think seriously about doing so, but to do so. They are ipso facto bigots, racists and misogynists. 

She does not necessarily advocate divorcing husbands who vote for him.

It may be a little extreme to divorce over a presidential candidate, assuming everything else in the marriage is good (although Trump fandom suggests that lots of things about your husband aren’t very good). But ending a dating relationship, where there presumably aren’t joint finances or shared property or kids? Girl, do it, and don’t look back. I say “Girl” because the majority of Trump supporters are men.
And while married white women often back Republicans, that’s changing in this election—Trump is doing far worse with white female voters than any Republican in the last quarter-century. The people voting for Trump are largely white men—a subgroup of white men who are entitled, angry, racist and sexist.
I wondered if she thinks other groups of men are misogynistic? Plucking an idea out of the air at random, does she think Muslim boyfriends also apt to have non-feminist attitudes to women and should therefore be ditched? 

Angry white men she attacks, but angry brown ones? If she ever wrote about Muslim men and sexism, I hope she did so in much more restrained terms than those in which she discusses male Trump supporters. 

She elides the question of men who do not like Trump and who are walking out with Trump supporting girlfriends. What advice would she give them?

Still she has a good idea, from her point of view. A sex strike, along the lines of the one in Aristophanes' Lysistrata, could bring the Trump bandwagon staggering to a halt - to a sort of coitus interuptus.

The EU referendum decision in England was a big surprise, even though the polls forecast that it was on the cards. After the result the attitudes of journalists in the progressive media, who considered Leave voters xenophobes, racists and bigots, went quite a long way to explain why Leave won.

The views of Miss Filipovic suggest that Donald Trump deserves to win and is badly needed. Let’s see if he does so.

I have lots of grave misgivings about Donald Trump and perfectly understand why people passionately don't want him to win. I had, with much thought, decided before reading this article to support him. Had I not done so, I promise you that the article would have convinced me.

Note. I have now changed my mind about Donald Trump, who won't do, but not about Jill Filipovic.

22 comments:

  1. Paul, you really wishg ill on the USA! I would rather see you come and burn down the White House (again) than have Drumpf inhabit it.

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    1. Yes, because Germans are soooo persecuted in America.

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  2. "Had I not done so, I promise you that the article would have convinced me."

    How interesting that at times we find one side so unattractive that it pushes us in to the other camp.

    I guess I am that white guy, too.

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    1. This article persuaded me months ago. http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/a-dialogue-with-a-22-year-old-donald-trump-supporter/484232/

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  3. There’s data of how Remain voters 5x as likely to try stop their child marrying a leave voter as vice versa

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  4. Trump is a disgusting woman-hating creep who happens to be mentally ill. Men (and women) who do not understand or recognize this are politely but firmly removed from my life.

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    1. We are two ships passing in the night.

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  5. The author of the piece does not condemn brown men because she is talking about Trump men. Something tells me Mr Trump doesn't have too many brown fans ;)

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    1. Quite a few. Most of his celebrity endorsers seem non white, perhaps because they will not be accused of racism. But I wonder if she ever wrote about Muslim men and sexism. If so, I hope she did so in much more balanced terms than she discusses male Trump supporters. She elides the question of men who do not like Trump and who are walking out with Trump supporting girlfriends. What advice would she give them?

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  6. It would be interesting to see how the author wrote about Muslim men.
    I watched the debate in a bar in Manhattan. All the Trump supporters were men...to a man. Near me, a money guy who works for JP Morgan and a young Irish gay guy. Not a single woman was for Trump. If so, they kept pretty quiet. They know that Trump basically divides females into f-able and unf-able and that tends to make them uncomfortable, but that's NY women. In the rest of the country I am sure it's different.

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    1. I know many American women who love him. One was for Bernie but prefers him to HC.

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    2. It is obvious that our social spheres have been widely different.

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    3. We both know that she would never write critically about Muslim sexism.

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    4. Americans don't really have to deal with Muslim sexism, so there is no reason for the writer to denounce it. Trump, on the other hand, makes a difference in the writer's life. There are billions of Muslim men, only one Trump. And his behavior lately is very peculiar! Oh, the drama we'll be in for if he is elected (which he will likely not be).
      A question...as an HR professional, don't you find the multiple stories of Trump not paying workers and contractors a little disturbing? Or is wage theft fine with you? Just curious.

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    5. I do not know of these stories. I am far away from the USA. If true they are disturbing. Depriving servants of their wages is one of the four sins crying out to heaven for vengeance, as stated in the Catechism, along with the Sin of Sodom.
      I do not like Donald Trump as a man, but dislike Hillary Clinton and her ideas more.

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    6. Many, many substantiated stories out there of Trump and his companies not paying workers and small businesses and when they asked for their money, scornfully daring them to sue. Ideologies aside, as someone who is right now going through the infuriating experience of struggling to be paid rightfully earned money from a large US corporation, I take a hostile view of wage theft and won't vote for someone who has used it as a routine business practice. "Social circles" do tend to be defined by this sort of difference.

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    7. I do not like the man but like the wave he is riding. I shall look into what you are saying.

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  7. Paul, you define reactionary. Paul, you define insufferable. Paul, you define the type of man I avoid at all costs.
    Eileen De Freest

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    1. Thank you. I have been trying to be a reactionary all my life. I wish you knew me better.

      However, I doubt our paths will cross unless you live in Bucharest. In Bucharest you'd think the sexual politics were deplorable anyway.

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  8. http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/10/gop-women-donald-trump-2016-214318

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