Tuesday, 29 November 2016

It's simply a question

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Defence experts are convinced that defeating ISIS in Syria and Iraq will disperse an Islamist diaspora that will wreak havoc in Europe, In that case, why don't we forget about destroying ISIS in the Middle East?

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  1. Why not suggest this to Trump?
    This is a classic dilemma: damned if you do (intervene) and damned if you don't (stay away).
    My only desire, as harsh as it may sound, is that any European passport-bearing ISIS fighter be prevented from returning to Europe, permanently.

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    1. My feeling was that they have as much right to fight in foreign wars as people had to fight against (and for) Franco. But I have thought twice and think stripping people of citizenship might be an answer.

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    2. Stripping them of citizenship? I was thinking of something a bit more permanent than that!

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    3. I always seem to be more of a genuine liberal than the liberals.

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    4. "My feeling was that they have as much right to fight in foreign wars as people had to fight against (and for) Franco."

      I have to say this comment is one of the reasons I like reading your blog. I usually don't agree with it but it's good to get an unvarnished euro position free of my job impediments (all the limeys I deal with for work never want to talk politics or history).

      My response to the Franco comment is sure why not? After all ISIS fighters are morally equivalent to the Spanish civil war combatants or americans serving in the RAF in WW2, right.

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    5. The Spanish Red Terror was fully as bad as or worse than Isis. The White Terror too

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  2. Islam requires occasional and often frequent "punches" in the nose. Has worked in the past and will work again. Merely replace swords and maxim gun with cruise missiles and reaper drones.

    Harsh but true.

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    1. On these matters (Islam, immigration etc.) I notice age rather than being left or right is the determinant of attitudes.

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    2. I agree, I think. Although I once hoped Islam and Christianity would be allies against abortion, feminism, Godless materialism etc.

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    3. Britain and the West in general could have had excellent relations with the Islamic world except for one event that happened in 1947. Since that time they haven't trusted us, and with good reason. Sometimes we need to look at things from the other fellow's point of view.

      And some people really take exception to having their countries constantly bombed and constantly invaded.

      Unfortunately mass Islamic immigration to Europe can of course only make the problems worse.

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    4. What happened in 1947? Israel came into being in 1948.

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  3. No I think it's about being left or right

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    1. That sounds very like Paul Craggs' tone of voice

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  4. why don't we forget about destroying ISIS in the Middle East?

    Probably not a bad idea.

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  5. Depriving ISIS of their territory puts an end to their their claim of a caliphate, and deflates any other would-be jihadist's enthusiasm to fight - that's the idea behind defeating ISIS, anyway. If it will work or not... that remains to be seen.

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  6. Well it wasn't , like a lot of others I've mostly given up on you. However I share the sentiment, to reduce something to age is simplistic and facile.

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    1. Happily my articles steadily get more and more clicks, especially in the last few weeks.

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