Monday, 20 February 2017

Donald Trump is right about Sweden, unfortunately

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Former Swedish Prime Minister Carl Bildt tweet reads:

Donald Trump has been jeered because, talking about terrorist attacks in Europe 
at his Saturday evening rally, he added, 
"Look at what's happening last night in Sweden. You look at what’s happening last night in Sweden. Sweden. Who would believe this? Sweden. They took in large numbers. They’re having problems like they never thought possible.”
This was taken as a reference to a non-existent attack.

In fact, his spokesman disclosed that he was referring to a Fox News documentary he saw the previous night about migrant violence in Sweden.

He promised during the election that he would be 'presidential' but this loose way of talking is not presidential, though it is refreshing to see a politician speaking without a script or an autocue. 


What is more important, though, is that he is right about an immigrant-linked crime wave in Sweden. Instead of jeering at him, people should look at the issue. 

I blogged about immigrant criminality in Sweden and its undiscussability in 2015. That was before the large influx of migrants happened. In that year Sweden was to take 163,000 refugees. I wrote then:

Sweden used to be a country with extremely low levels of violent crime and a great deal of social cohesion. Now, because of immigration, this has changed.

When crimes are reported from Sweden the link with immigration is often not mentioned. The English language press reported widespread rioting in Sweden in 2013 without for some time mentioning that the rioters were Muslim.


Now two people have been shot in Gothenburg and the Guardian hints that the 

deprived borough where Wednesday’s killings took place... has high levels of recent immigration and overcrowding.
The Guardian is able to imply that ethnic minorities are responsible for these crimes by providing what is nowadays called a narrative and the narrative is this:
Poverty, racism and segregation are driving young men from immigrant backgrounds into gangs and gun crime (continued here).

17 comments:

  1. Have an office in Stockholm, my friends no longer go out after dark because of the unmentionable 'situation'.

    Andrew

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  2. Agreed, there is a major problem in Sweden. But you also miss the point about Trump. He has the attention span of a 5 year old and will pick up an impression from TV and spin it in his mind into a non-existent event. A celebrated example would be the eight men arrested in NJ partying on a rooftop as the WTC smoldered; this was spun into "thousands" of muslims celebrating in the street. And unfotunately the practice is imitated by Trump's lackeysl hence Kellyanne Conway, referring to a Bowling Green "massacre". Whether they are conscious of it or not, their words are absorbed by barely literate listeners who will take it as gospel. Does this not worry you in the slightest?

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    1. I didn't miss the point about his lack of attention to detail. Of course this is well known. The same was true by the way of Reagan who had to be shown by Poindexter on the globe where Libya was before authorising the bombing of Tripoli.

      Were there were no people celebrating 9/11 in New York? I thought I read that there were.

      Trump's lack of accuracy and concern for truth is very worrying.

      So is the lack of concern for truth on the part of the mainstream media. For example the 'Independent' headline today says the Fox documentary that the President watched has been "debunked" by the Swedish government - as if it is reasonable to rely on the Swedish government to be objective in matters of this kind.

      Looking at the larger issues, the real problem with censorship and fake news about migrant related problems in Europe clearly comes from governments and most of the media, not from Trump.

      The UK is lucky in that the government and establishment line is balanced by tabloids like the Daily Mail and the Express.

      In continental Europe Bannon is bringing Breitbart to shake things up.


      In case you missed the quotation in my next post here it is, from Yascha Mounk, in Slate:


      For much the same reasons that old-fashioned flip phones proved an important tool for African rebel leaders, Facebook and Twitter have given radicals in North America and Western Europe an important tool in their fight against the democratic consensus.
      ...The same phenomenon is in the middle of transforming the media landscape. Until a few years ago, a small elite of writers, editors, producers, and news anchors effectively decided what views were mainstream enough to be given a hearing. This may sound sinister, but it served an important purpose. It allowed the journalistic class to contain false claims and to refuse to publish racist articles. It also meant that critics who rejected polite political discourse had trouble breaking in. Building a distribution network was expensive, so they couldn’t do much beyond writing angry letters to the editor (which those newspapers could decline to print)."

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    2. "Whether they are conscious of it or not, their words are absorbed by barely literate listeners" - this drips with contempt for the masses, a contempt I notice more and more in Democrats who were founded by Jackson as the original small 'd' democrats and the party of the common man.

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    3. No, no, I reserve my contempt for those who knowlingly prey on the ignorant. In any event, I did not quantify the number of barely literate listeners who absorb Trump's words. I was thinking of eight in particular, but if you will turn them into thousands, that is your business.

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    4. Which eight?
      Many voters are ignorant and stupid - that's a given in a democracy - and plenty of them vote for the Democrats as well as the GOP. But I doubt if ignorant or stupid people do nearly as much harm as clever ones.


      (I could not be a monarchist or have liked the hereditary peers sitting in Parliament had I thought intelligence was important qualification for being a legislator.)

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    5. Of course i was just being flippant. Again, I reserve my contempt for leaders who manipulate. Yes, the others do it as well, and I will call them out on it. There is no need to jump to Trump's defence every time, or one will soon be worn out. There are cases where he deserves no defence.

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    6. I actually wasn't interested in defending him but in seeking to correct the biassed media for their coverage of his remark, but mostly in pointing out how things were two years ago in Sweden.

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    7. "But I doubt if ignorant or stupid people do nearly as much harm as clever ones."

      Well said. And, I'll share some quotes with you.

      "I think that Lee should have been hanged. It was all the worse that he was a good man and a fine character and acted conscientiously. It’s always the good men who do the most harm in the world." Henry Adams on RE Lee.

      "There are only four types of officer. First, there are the lazy, stupid ones. Leave them alone, they do no harm…Second, there are the hard- working, intelligent ones. They make excellent staff officers, ensuring that every detail is properly considered. Third, there are the hard- working, stupid ones. These people are a menace and must be fired at once. They create irrelevant work for everybody. Finally, there are the intelligent, lazy ones. They are suited for the highest office.” Marshal von Mainstein

      Time for some more quotes from you?

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    8. I love that quotation but hard- working, stupid people can be very useful. They run the world.

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    9. http://bigthink.com/paul-ratner/new-study-shows-intelligent-people-are-lazier-while-non-thinkers-more-active?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&link_time=1480728317

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    10. https://acidmuncher.wordpress.com/2017/02/20/no-fox-news-trump-arent-lying-about-sweden/

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  3. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-sweden-happened-last-night-based-on-debunked-fox-news-report-a7589031.html

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  4. Trump did not refer to conditions prevailing in Sweden for some time, but precisely - and only - to *last nite* - which is a yet another total lie.

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  5. He is the master of diversion......in America around 12,000 people are killed by Americans annually. Not by immigrants, not by terrorists...but by Americans. America first Mr President.....America first.

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  6. Reality hitting the grand rhetorical debates again: 20th February 2017: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.expressen.se%2Fnyheter%2Fpolis-skot-varningsskott-mot-stenkastare%2F&edit-text=

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  7. This video on migrant rape statistics in Sweden was apparently made by a Bosnian immigrant whose parents are Muslim. He says there's a serious problem in Sweden. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA9yjrqtWG0

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