Tuesday, 23 May 2017

What we know this week (and it's only Tuesday)

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Theresa May is an incompetent leader.

Jeremy Corbyn, who defended the IRA for decades and called Hamas his 'friends'  now has to condemn a terrorist massacre similar to the ones Hamas tries to carry out all the time.

Many millions of people who think Donald Trump is very dangerous want Jeremy Corbyn to be Prime Minister. They include
 a large majority of British academics.

No-one wants to stop mass immigration from Muslim countries into Great Britain or Europe.

No-one has any idea about how to stop further massacres.

26 comments:

  1. For people who've actually read Corbyn's statement on the Manchester atrocity ,my thoughts on it

    You will notice, he doesn't mention the attacker at all. He doesn't call them out, or condemn them. You Mr Wood will see this and take it as sympathy or apathy, or something even worse, of course you are wrong.

    Psychologists globally will tell you that the worst thing you can do in situations like this is give lime light, or any attention at all, to the aggressor . Sadly in the current combative situation surrounding the general election MSM, and politicians looking to score points do it all the time, UKIP was pretty sharp with a response based on immigration , as were you and Katie Hopkins with her disgusting Final solution tweet,and all it does is give potential attackers yet another incentive to carry out similar atrocities.

    Remember Rigsby , Cox ? The media were all over the killers. Everything was about them. What they listened to, what they watched, what they read ,how they dressed. If you think this doesn't feed into the narcissism of others contemplating such attacks, you're spectacularly naive.

    As Jeremy has done , focus on the good, on those who helped, on sacrifices made, and what can be done in the future, and much is being done to combat radicalism, but don't aggrandize murderers by giving them the oxygen of publicity

    Dante
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    1. I agree about not giving killers publicity and therefore don't even name the Norwegian murderer. I doubt if the bad men need any incentive provided by Katie Hopkins(whom I think performs an enormously useful and brave role) to carry on killing. I think that what the terrorists want is for more Muslims to side with them. We must seek to prevent this. i don't see why any Muslim should object to tight immigration controls nor do I care too much if he does.
      Why do you call Mr. Corbyn by his first or, as people of my generation say, his Christian name? Do you know him?

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    2. This is the moment, as with every terrorist massacre, when the danger of Islamophobia becomes the big issue. In this case La Hopkins' tweet is the cue. Police time is wasted because she tweeted that we need a “final solution”.

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    3. As Jeremy has done , focus on the good, on those who helped, on sacrifices made, and what can be done in the future, and much is being done to combat radicalism, but don't aggrandize murderers by giving them the oxygen of publicity

      If only the British government had had psychologists to advise it in 1939. Their advice would have been not to give Hitler the oxygen of publicity by declaring war. Just focus on the good and on what could be done to combat the unfortunate radicalising of the Germans.

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  2. Yes I knew and worked with him some years ago on a committee .I see only one flaw in your argument. All of the recent UK terrorist attacks were commited by either British Nationals or recent converts to Islam. I have seen you promote closed borders or stemming the tide as a solution, neither of which would appear to work in a world where the internet makes borders irrelevant in matters of radicalisation either of Muslims, Hindu's or Christians. Perhaps Mrs May's idea of a closed and structured internet where all is monitored and if deemed unsuitable it is unavailable would suit?

    Dante

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    1. It is a fact that had the first generation not been admitted, the second generation could not have murdered the population that welcomed them.

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    2. The suicide bomber who killed 22 people and injured dozens more at the Manchester Arena has been named as 22-year-old Salman Abedi. Born in Manchester in 1994, the second youngest of four children his parents were Libyan refugees who came to the UK to escape the Gaddafi regime.

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    3. Perhaps Mrs May's idea of a closed and structured internet where all is monitored and if deemed unsuitable it is unavailable would suit?

      Totalitarianism. Of course. That's the answer. Stalin didn't have a terrorist problem.

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    4. David in Moscow24 May 2017 at 16:12

      @Dante

      "All of the recent UK terrorist attacks were commited by either British Nationals or recent converts to Islam. I have seen you promote closed borders or stemming the tide as a solution, neither of which would appear to work in a world where the internet makes borders irrelevant in matters of radicalisation either of Muslims,Hindu's or Christians."

      Reading your comment above, I was reminded of the Mao Zedong saying "The guerrilla must move amongst the people as a fish swims in the sea."

      Controlling immigration (stemming the tide) can reduce the number of "fish" (sympathisers) and the terrorist will then find it much more difficult to "swim.

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    5. @ David in Moscow

      Oh so all terrorists are Muslims and are a ) Brown, and b) have implicit support from the Muslim Community. Would that be the Shia or Sunni side of the street?

      I think currently terrorists have had more than sufficient support from the Prime Minister, who in her tenure as that and previously Home secretary, proposed and implemented the deepest cuts to the Police, security services, Armed forces, Fire service and Health service that the country has seen since 1938. The only reason there are troops on the streets of London today in, response to a perhaps ten man cell at worst, is that police levels per capita have been reduced to the lowest level since 1884 by this and the previous government.

      so when I read your post I am reminded of two quotes

      firstly Churchill's ovine response on Atlee

      and secondly

      If you want to know where to go ask a policeman.

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  3. Politics is the art of the possible. Things are very bad and will get much worse but the only thing I can think of is to close the doors.

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    1. So lock yourself in with a population that is our breeding you and feels victimized. Have you done much ratting with terriers? What then? Start weeding out the radicals? Inter the sympathizer? Perhaps you just outlaw the religion, or convert at weapons point, euthanasia for those who refuse, I mean that worked with Catholics in Britain didn't it?

      Dante

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    2. It is vital that the majority of Muslims should not feel victimised. Slowing down mass immigration is vital to preserve our national identity and won't victimise anyone. England scarcely took in immigrants before 1950.

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    3. Perhaps you just outlaw the religion, or convert at weapons point

      It actually worked for Spain. Convert to Catholicism or leave Spain. And despite the centuries of anti-Catholic propaganda the Spanish Inquisition only killed a handful of people.

      Put it this way. Spain survived. Britain isn't going to.

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    4. David in Moscow24 May 2017 at 16:28

      @Paul

      "It is vital that the majority of Muslims should not feel victimised."

      Why?

      Muslims have fled to Britain from third world hell-holes, where they have been downtrodden and forced to kow-tow for centuries to co-religionists more powerful than them.

      They are used to being victimised.

      When it is made clear to them what they can expect if they don't toe the line, i.e. integrate and conform to Western values, they will comply.

      The over the top tolerance of their dark ages faith, objectionable attitudes to women and outrageous practices such as so-called "honour" killings, FGM, etc., is taken by Muslims as a sign of weakness.

      They don't respect tolerance, they respect power.

      Btw, in a previous life "David in Moscow" was "David in Abu Dhabi" :)

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    5. Spain has exactly the same percentage of Muslims today as the UK around 4% of population. The Spanish Inquisition during it's active tenure ( it still exists of course ) targeted mainly Jews and other heretics rather than Muslims, and 5000 is hardly a handful. Created by bull from Sixtus IV, Five hundred and forty years ago for Ferdinand and Isabella, and a lot of blood and water have flowed under Spanish bridges since then. The rise and fall of an Empire, foreign religious wars, a bloody and protracted Civil one, and a bloody sectarian terrorist incursion just recently closing out. That of course is where Spain and the UK's parallel histories diverge. It currently has a tanked economy, 30% dropout from high school ( but <5% in Muslim families ), which counts more towards the 45% youth unemployment than anything supposedly done to it by the EU. I'm glad you think Spain is surviving so well.

      Dante

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    6. I'm glad you think Spain is surviving so well.

      The Inquisition bought Spain several centuries of life. Maybe they're not doing so well in recent times because they no longer have the Inquisition?

      They need a Reconquista 2.0.

      Spain joined the western death spiral after Franco's death. Perhaps they need a Franco 2.0 as well?

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  4. "It is vital that the majority of Muslims should not feel victimised."

    Psst.... they already "feel" victimized by your mere existence and profession of Christianity.

    I mean, seriously, what are you afraid of? Getting blown up? Head chopped off?

    What is wrong with you people?

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    1. I mean, seriously, what are you afraid of? Getting blown up? Head chopped off?

      Something much much worse. The fear of being called racist.

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    2. A great discussion. I have very clever readers.

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  5. Corbyn refused to condemn IRA terror 5 times. Will he now condemn Islamic terror?

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    1. Corbyn condemned all terrorist acts so I think that covers it. Peter denide Jesus three times does that signal the illegitimacy of the Christian heritage stemming from him?

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  6. David in Moscow25 May 2017 at 12:46

    @ Anonymous

    Where to begin to reply to a comment so full of straw men and mis-statements?

    Just one sentence, then.

    "Oh so all terrorists are Muslims and are a ) Brown, and b) have implicit support from the Muslim Community."

    Who wrote that "all terrorists are muslims"?

    Some are Irish.

    Fortunately the many Sikhs, Hindus and Bhuddists, living in the UK have not carried out any terrorist acts within the country, so far as I am aware.

    Why do you think Muslims are brown? They come in many different skin tones. For example, many Syrian and Palestinian Arabs I have met were as light skinned as me. Some even lighter.

    With regard to Muslim terrorists having implicit support from the Muslim Community, I believe that they have explicit support from some co-religionists. This support is proportional to the size of the Muslim population. Why would it not be?

    Limiting the size of this population would reduce the implicit and explicit support for this type of terrorism.

    With regard to your further comments, I have never been a supporter of either the Conservative party or the previous (Cameron) and current (May)cabinets.

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  7. David in Moscow25 May 2017 at 12:51

    @Anonymous

    Peter repented his denials (Luke 22:61,62) :D.

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  8. To be fair to Corbyn I am not aware that he ever expicitly approved of Hamas killings. He would say that he or opposes killings of civilians by anyone.

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