Saturday, 14 July 2018

Donald Trump is now leader of the opposition in the whole of Europe

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Donald Trump's visit to Great Britain has been much more significant and exciting than I expected. I had looked forward to it being richly comic. It has been much more than that.

Yesterday, Theresa May was required to stand next to him at a press conference, 
and be smilingly polite, while he repeated his damning judgement on immigration into Europe and the problems it brings. 

I just think it's changing the culture. I think it's a very negative thing for Europe.
This was an attack on something which for her, as for other Western European leaders, has a quasi-theological importance: the amenities of mass immigration from
the Third World.

I expected Mr. Trump's remarks on immigration to be the top story today in the newspapers in England, but they are not given top billing


Perhaps they make everyone uncomfortable. They will, however, resonate for years to come. 

They are comparable with Enoch Powell's 'Rivers of Blood' speech in 1968, but delivered not by a British opposition frontbencher but by the President of the United States.

Mr. Trump has, in effect, endorsed Mateo Salvini and the League in Italy and AfD in Germany. 

Like the European 'populists' (who would in the 1960s have been called right-wing conservatives), Mr. Trump is saying what many voters think and doing things many voters want. 

This, in our day, is considered by responsible people to be a very grave threat to democracy.

Importantly, since he is the democratically elected leader of the most powerful country in the world, he might have made it acceptable to share his views.

On the other hand, his brand may continue to be toxic in Europe. We shall see. In fact, 'populists' like AfD in Germany and the Sweden Democrats in Sweden are very careful not to endorse Donald Trump for fear of alienating voters.

In the past, British people who supported Brexit usually did not care for Donald Trump. Now 25% of the British public say he is doing a good job, according to the last poll I read, though it is certainly not considered the thing to say at most smart dinner parties. 

But now he has aligned himself with the Hard Brexiteers and the Boris Johnson faction, who are relatively respectable, against Theresa May, Michael Gove and Olly Robbins. 

Will this help or harm the Boris faction? It may make Donald Trump popular with a lot of people in the UK who share his views that Theresa May has handled Brexit badly - and that means most Remainers. 


He was right to say that a  free trade agreement with the UK is not possible if Britain sticks to Mrs May's proposals.  In my view, he is right to want a hard Brexit. In fact this, the Canadian option, would still be possible, if the EU and the Republic of Ireland do not make unnecessary problems about the Irish border, or if we just live with those problems, but Michael Gove's faction have given up the fight.

I therefore very greatly doubt that Messrs. Trump or Johnson or anyone else can prevent the EU and the British Treasury arranging a soft Brexit, one which does not feel like Brexit at all. But I do foresee huge turmoil in British politics.

What the consequences for British politics will be no-one knows but one cannot rule out a backlash of anger among Leave voters bringing Jeremy Corbyn and the Trotskyites to power.

In any case, for the rest of his term in office, Donald Trump is, in effect, now leader of the opposition in the whole of Europe.



He confirmed at the press conference that the things he said in his interview with the Sun were accurate but then added that they chose not to print the nice things he said about Theresa May and threw out the phrase 'Fake news'. The press then accused him of lying when he described the interview as fake news. It is hard for any fair minded person, whatever they think of him, not to see Trump's point about media bias.


Below is the full text of his remarks and her reply. They are worth reading.




Prime Minister, I wonder whether you agree with the president of the United States that immigration has damaged the cultural fabric of Europe?

TRUMP: I think it's been very bad for Europe. I think -- Europe is a place I know very well, and I think that what has happened is very tough. It's a very tough situation. I mean, you see the same terror attacks that I do. We see them a lot.

We just left some incredible young man -- men and women at Sandhurst, and they were showing us cells and they were showing us things that, frankly, 20 years ago nobody even thought about -- probably a lot more recently than that nobody even thought about.


I just think it's changing the culture. I think it's a very negative thing for Europe. I think it's very negative. I think having -- in Germany, and I have a great relationship with Angela Merkel. Great relationship with Germany. But I think that's very much hurt Germany. I think it's very much hurt other parts of Europe.

And I know it's political not necessarily correct to say that, but I'll say it and I'll say it loud.

And I think they better watch themselves because you are changing culture, you are changing a lot of things, you're changing security.

Look at what's happening. I mean, you take a look at what's happening to different countries that never had difficulty, never had problems.

It's a very sad situation. It's very unfortunate. But I do not think it's good for Europe and I don't think it's good for our country.

We're, as you know, far superior to anything that's happened before, but we have very bad immigrations laws and we're -- I mean, we're doing incredibly well considering the fact that we virtually don't have immigration laws. We have -- we have laws that are so bad I don't even call them laws. I call them -- it's just like you just walk across the border. You walk across the border, you put one foot on the land, and now you're tied up in a lawsuit for five years. It's the craziest thing anyone's ever seen.

So I would just make that recommendation to Europe. I've made it very loud and clear. I made it yesterday. And 29 countries total. And that's the way I feel.

MAY: The U.K. has a proud history of welcoming people who are fleeing persecution to our country. We have a proud history of welcoming people who want to come to our country to contribute to our economy and contribute to our society.  And over the years, overall, immigration has been good for the U.K. It's brought people with different backgrounds, different outlooks here to the U.K., and has -- and we've seen them contributing to our society and to our economy.

Of course, what is important is that we have control of our borders. What is important is that we have a set of rules that enables us to determine who comes into our country. And, of course, that is what, as a government, we have been doing for number of years and will be able to continue to do in the future.

15 comments:

  1. May has caused mayhem from the time she has been in government, appeasement and soft touch, DOES NOT work, because there is no will to implement or adhere to the laws we make. It is all talk all lipservice and patriots continue to suffer, get maimed, or die at the hands of mediocrity and failure of government> Enoch Powell and Ian Smith tried to honestly tell you, Trump has taken up their vision, BUT will you ever listen until one of yours or you are brutally obliterated like has happened to so many in our western values driven countries. The liberals and socialists of this world are jointly and severally responsible and it is on their heads. They will run, but they can never hide.

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    1. Seems like Mr Johnson and Mr Davis are the ones doing the running these days.

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  2. And over the years, overall, immigration has been good for the U.K. It's brought people with different backgrounds, different outlooks here to the U.K., and has -- and we've seen them contributing to our society and to our economy.

    That's basically the argument that diversity is good because it leads to diversity.

    That's pretty much the standard of political debate that you expect these days.

    Also tolerance is Important because it leads to a more tolerant society. Freedom is a good thing because it makes you free. Democracy is good because it's democratic.

    It's moronic, but don't make the mistake of thinking that politicians who talk in empty platitudes like this are morons. They're lying, scheming, calculating, dishonest whores and they know that they're telling lies.

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  3. I heard Theresa May speak and answer questions at some event in Scotland. She was a very polite lady but full of leftist platitudes, she could have been the leader of the Labour Party or the Green Party or even some European style socialist party. It was quite disappointing.

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  4. Very perceptive summation!

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  5. Immigrants are good but flooding England and Europe is not good.

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  6. Europe is half way back to the dark ages, in another 50 years it will be UN-recognizable! Is it returning to feudalism??

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  7. North and Booker sum up the grim future for the UK:

    "Ever since 17.4 million of us voted to leave the European Union, [Booker] says, we have been confronted with one question overriding all others: how could we free ourselves completely from the political structures of the EU without doing irreparable damage to our economy?

    Through more than 40 years of European integration, the UK economy has become so enmeshed with those of the rest of the EU, that a vast tranche of our economic activity is only legally authorised by a thicket of EU laws.

    Was it possible, he asks, that we could extricate ourselves entirely from the EU, while holding on to that economic relationship which, in exports alone, provides 14 percent of our national income, also yielding a hefty slice of Government tax income?

    Even before the referendum, he reminds his readers that some of us were urging that there was only one practical way we could get pretty well all we wanted: to become a fully independent country, freeing ourselves from three quarters of the EU’s laws, while continuing to enjoy "frictionless" trade, and also free to sign trade deals across the world, and even to exercise some control over EU immigration.

    This was to remain in the wider European Economic Area (EEA) by re-joining Norway in the European Free Trade Association (EFTA). Membership could have solved virtually all the problems which have proved so intractable, including the Irish border, But Theresa May chose instead to leave the EU's economic system altogether, to become a "third country".

    Thus have we wasted 17 months discussing entirely fanciful proposals, each of which contradicted the "core principle" which the EU made clear even before we triggered Article 50: that “it will not be possible to cherry-pick and be a participant in parts of the Single Market", to enjoy a uniquely privileged status not open to any “third country” outside the EEA.

    Yet, Booker declares, what is Mrs May’s latest proposal, which has provoked such uproar, but again exactly that. It is so detached from reality that it can only end next March in the ultimate disaster, where we crash out without an agreement. Few people in Britain yet have any idea of the chaos which will ensue, as we are shut out of our largest export market and much besides.

    Whole industries will go into meltdown. It would be the gravest economic crisis in our history. And we shall have brought it entirely on ourselves, because those in charge of our affairs have never begun to understand the technical realities of what we were up against. "

    http://eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=86932

    The insane irony in all this is that all the harm caused to British society by immigration has been the result of non-White immigration: West Indian, African, Arab and Pakistani immigrants. Such immigration exploded after 1997 having almost nothing to do with the EEA and Freedom of Movement. Almost every major city in the UK is now heavily colonised by these immigrants and their children. None of these people will be going back to their ancestral lands once Britain crashes out of the EU. If anything they will just become even more of a drain on the British taxpayer.

    Essentially Britain will be ruining her economy, destroying the livelihoods of millions of British people, in order to end the immigration of well assimilated conservative White Christian Poles who were having lots of babies for the UK! Visit any state school in Greater London nowadays and literally the only white children left are Polish. It's a bit like a surgeon amputating a healthy left leg while leaving the patient to die of sepsis from a gangrenous right leg.

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    1. The insane irony in all this is that all the harm caused to British society by immigration has been the result of non-White immigration: West Indian, African, Arab and Pakistani immigrants. Such immigration exploded after 1997 having almost nothing to do with the EEA and Freedom of Movement. Almost every major city in the UK is now heavily colonised by these immigrants and their children. None of these people will be going back to their ancestral lands once Britain crashes out of the EU.

      Britain is probably going to be getting a lot more non-white immigration post-Brexit. It's your own home-grown British ruling class that wants to destroy you and Brexit is not going to get rid of the traitors in Westminster.

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  8. If Barack Obama had stuck his oar into British politics so flagrantly and tactlessly you would be furious. You're just ok with it because Trump is on your side (in his careless,uninformed, trolling way).

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    1. True, anonymous. Donald Trump behaved disgracefully, I suppose. I did not say he behaved well.

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    2. David in Belgrade16 July 2018 at 09:39

      @ Anon

      If?
      He did!
      https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/22/barack-obama-brexit-uk-back-of-queue-for-trade-talks

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    3. Yes, as now know at Cameron's request. Obama's, Juncker's and other foreigners' interventions won votes for Leave, according to the Readers' Digest poll, as did David Cameron's and Jeremy Corbyn's speeches. It may well be that Trump's intervention will help the Remainers and the pro-immigration camp, though I would imagine that what he says will resonate with many people who do not like him.

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  9. I would rather consider Austrian's Kurz the opposition leader of EU. Together with Orban. And now the Italian PM.Trump is more of a looming background voice.

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  10. And he is the intellectual and emotional center of the British Labour Party and Anglophone Old Media. Negative Paradigm Subscription.

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