Monday, 6 August 2018

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Frank Furedi, ex Trotskyite, in Slate today:

In an age when white privilege is a cultural crime, Jewish privilege and supposed Jewish influence are treated with contempt and resentment. Often this reaction against ‘Jewish privilege’ meshes with hostility to Israel to produce a unique 21st-century species of anti-Semitism. This is why even in an age when victims are routinely celebrated, the oppression of Jews and the experience of the Holocaust are not seen as legitimate claims to victimhood. Indeed, the Holocaust is often turned against the Jews. Israel is often depicted as the heir to Nazi Germany. Former mayor of London Ken Livingstone continually promotes this mendacious argument, with his assertions that Hitler was a great friend of Zionism.


Ralph Miliband, hard left theorist, ally of Tony Benn and father of Ed and David Miliband, in a diary entry made shortly after he arrived in Britain as a Jewish refugee from Poland in the summer of 1940, he wrote:
The Englishman is a rabid nationalist. They are perhaps the most nationalist people in the world ... When you hear the English talk of this war you sometimes almost want them to lose it to show them how things are. They have the greatest contempt for the continent in general and for the French in particular. They didn't like the French before the defeat ... Since the defeat, they have the greatest contempt for the French Army ... England first. This slogan is taken for granted by the English people as a whole. To lose their empire would be the worst possible humiliation.
Eugene Ionesco:
I was born near Bucharest, but my parents came to France a year later. We moved back to Romania when I was thirteen, and my world was shattered. I hated Bucharest, its society, and its mores - its anti-Semitism for example.

Benjamin Disraeli:
Race is all.

8 comments:

  1. This is why even in an age when victims are routinely celebrated, the oppression of Jews and the experience of the Holocaust are not seen as legitimate claims to victimhood. .

    Yes, I've noticed that. The oppression of the Jews is something we never ever hear about. That's probably because there are no Jews in the media and Jews have no way of ever getting heard.

    Is this Furedi guy for real? Is this a parody?

    Look, I don't subscribe to the theory that Jews are responsible for everything that's wrong in the world. I'm not into conspiracy theories about the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. When people start carrying on about Jewish conspiracies I tend to switch off. I don't think the Jews assassinated JFK. I'm not into any of that stuff.

    But honestly, to claim that Jews are denied victimhood status is just nuts.

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    1. Yes Jews certainly do have victim status but this seems to be changing on the left, because the left does not easily see white men as victims, even though socialism was created to further the interests of oppressed working class men.

      Working class men, en masse and with many exceptions, have been loyal to the left but this loyalty was not reciprocated. This is why the tectonic plates are now moving. It is not so much that the working class are social conservatives as that left wing middle class fear that they are and are repelled by this. In fact the working class, in England, at least has become very politically correct like everyone else.

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    2. It is justly assumed that only the full exposition, not only of antisemitism, but also of its historical roots, can be the basis of struggle against it. Likewise I am assuming that only the full exposition of Jewish chauvinism and religious fanaticism can be the basis of struggle against those phenomena. This is especially true today when, contrary to the situation prevailing fifty or sixty years ago, the political influence of Jewish chauvinism and religious fanaticism is much greater than that of antisemitism. But there is also another important consideration. I strongly believe that antisemitism and Jewish chauvinism can only be fought simultaneously.

      Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years
      Professor Israel Shahak
      Pluto Press (2002)
      http://ifamericaknew.org/cur_sit/shahak.html

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    3. In fact the working class, in England, at least has become very politically correct like everyone else.

      It's expressing but inevitable given the nature of the schools as indoctrination centres. Anyone under the age of 35 in the West is pretty much incapable of thoughtcrime. In fact they're pretty much incapable of thought. Orwell got that right.

      the left does not easily see white men as victims, even though socialism was created to further the interests of oppressed working class men

      Socialism is one of those things that the modern Left has quietly dropped. It upsets the billionaires and bankers who finance them so now the Left loves capitalism. As far as economics is concerned the Left is now the Right. Except that the Right now believes in cultural marxism. And so does the Left. In fact they all seem to believe the same thing.

      Yes Jews certainly do have victim status but this seems to be changing on the left

      It used to be very simple since only Jews and blacks had victim status. Now almost everyone has victim status. There's not enough victim status to go around. And now there are new and exciting victim groups, like trannies and refugees, which makes the old victim groups boring. Things like slavery and the Holocaust seem pretty insignificant compared to the horror of being addressed by the wrong pronoun.

      Jews certainly do have a problem. Their big problem is that far from being oppressed they're actually outrageously privileged. And the really big problem is that some of the other victim groups have figured that out. Jews claiming to be oppressed is a bit like Old Etonians claiming to be an oppressed group. It's just obviously silly.

      This is happening to other members of the Coalition of the Fringes. From the 70s up until quite recently university-educated middle-class white women managed to persuade themselves and others that they were horrifically oppressed. It's not working any longer. Now they're seen as beneficiaries of white privilege. Like the Jews they're no longer a fashionable oppressed group and it's very dangerous for a victim group to cease to be fashionable.

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    4. Jews are not white and do not view themselves as such.

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  2. The philosopher Martin Heidegger, who was a Nazi, referring to Nazi anti-Jewish laws said:
    "Whereas since time immemorial, the Jews, relying on their express talents for calculation, have ‘lived’ according to the principle of race, they now seek to defend themselves against that same principle’s unrestricted application.”

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  3. Within the historical past, of South Africa, as I have pointed out above, the White man was put right into a
    portion, particularly by the British and later by the Boers, to be accountable for the
    cheap labor of Africans.

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  4. Drfordoom, never in my life have I encountered anyone that claims that Jews assassinated JFK. I rarely hear the Protocols of the Elders of Zion quoted.

    99.999% of the time, those who are labelled "anti-semitic" NEVER make these arguments.

    The position they are really arguing, 99.999% of the time is this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNRwvar_QNA

    summed up in 4 minutes.

    Why don't you tackle the charges raised in the above instead of a straw man "Jewish conspiracy" argument that almost nobody ever makes?

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