Monday, 15 July 2019

Donald Trump trolls the Democrats and Theresa May

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24 hours ago Donald Trump tweeted,
"So interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how it is done. These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough. I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements!"
I smiled in admiration at the way he uses his opponents' strength against them and they don't see it, ever. 

He inevitably rouses the Democrats to over-the-top outrage, which makes millions voters in middle America side with him faute de mieux

Will his tweet play in Peoria? I don't know where Peoria is, but I imagine it will.

In the words of Steve Bannon two years ago,
“The Democrats, the longer they talk about identity politics, I got ’em. I want them to talk about racism every day. If the left is focused on race and identity, and we go with economic nationalism, we can crush the Democrats.”
The papers report that the President directed this tweet at four specific congresswomen, only one of whom was born abroad and one of whom is not even the child of immigrants. But, unless I am missing something, he did not say how many '“Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen' he had in mind or whom

I therefore think we see here a good example not only of media bias but plain misinformation.

One progressive congresswoman, Ilhan Abdullahi Omar, who was born in Somalia, is consistently very critical of the USA. 

You could argue that she does so because she is an American, who considers the USA is not living up to its ideals, or you could take the line that she should be less critical and more grateful. I do not want to get involved in that controversy, because I know very little about her. 


Other congresswomen to whom the papers thought he referred were born in the USA. This is more problematic.

But Melanie Phillips, as she often does, makes the intelligent point about this story that everyone else missed. 
'For his critics have omitted to note that, after telling these congresswomen to go and sort out their presumed countries of origin, he said: “Then come back and tell us how to do it.”'
The Independent's brief news report referred to the tweet as racist twice, not in inverted commas, as if this is just an objective fact rather than a value judgment. American papers and CNN do the same. Journalists were once reporters, but are becoming activists.

You can accuse the President of dog whistling and you might be right. He is certainly behaving on this occasion as a demagogue, seeking to win votes by his stance on immigration, while doing almost nothing to prevent illegal immigration or reform legal immigration. Illegal and legal immigrant numbers are increasing.

When he leaves office his legacy is likely to be not be a wall but an American left-wing administration committed to open borders.

Theresa May has one last week left from the time she forced the 1922 Committee to grant her, as her fingers were being prised from the door, at the expense of the need to hurry with Brexit. She is using it to make mischief and even leave a legacy. Was it Macmillan who asked what is the point of power if you don't abuse it? 

Today her spokesman (a sort of E.J. Thribb) delivered himself of this. 
“The prime minister’s view is that the language that was used to refer to those women was completely unacceptable.”
However, she cannot harm Anglo-American relations now.

When she finally goes, it will be as if the headmistress has left the room. Especially when Boris, Lord of Misrule, takes her place, dines at her table, sleeps with his paramour in her bed. 

She is roughly as centre-left as James Callaghan, as is much of her party. Boris, social and fiscal liberal though he is (and much more liberal than her on immigration), worrying though he is, is a true Tory, a cavalier and not a roundhead.



22 comments:

  1. Did Breitbart doubt whom President Tweet was addressing? Or are we to accuse them of bias and misinformation as well?

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    1. '...nor had he been making a point in his tweet about race or colour. For his critics have omitted to note that, after telling these congresswomen to go and sort out their presumed countries of origin, he said: “Then come back and tell us how to do it.”'
      Melanie Phillips

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    2. An Axios poll in May showed 22% of those polled who recognised their pictures having a favorable view of Miss Ocasio-Cortez and 9% when it came to Ilhan Abdullahi Omar. American voters don't like the new face of the Democratic party.

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  2. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9384789/sun-readers-debate-boris-hunt-live/

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  3. Omigod chronicles

    Having been told many times that I’m not welcome here; that I should go back where I came from; that if I came from here I should nevertheless leave the country; or that I should recede in time, and go fix the problems of the 13th century; or move to any other century that will have me; … hooo, do I empathize with “The Squad.” They, too, were told they should go home (to Somalia, or the Bronx, or wherever) and fix the problems there. It was a very hurtful comment. And made by Donald Trump, on Twitter. He is worse than Hitler.

    Me, too, was a victim of racism; including chrono-racism, the worst kind. (There has been a genocide against all those born before the 20th century. They’re all dead now.) I was utterly traumatized, let me tell you — so much that, in several cases, I attempted a witty rejoinder. In others, I didn’t react at all. I waited for my fellow panelists to defend me. But they didn’t have the courage. They just sat there, like grinning idiots, pretending that nothing important had happened.

    I get so outraged by Donald Trump, when he tweets what most of the population are thinking; until he says it and they line up to condemn him. He is such a racist. An anti-Semite, and what makes it worse, a Zionist and an Israel-lover. A guy making jobs more plentiful for Blacks and Hispanics, just to buy them off. (What a corrupt person!) An Orange Supremacist. He even has an estate in Florida.

    A Fascist, who wants to enforce immigration laws. There are concentration camps all along the Mexican border now, with millions of people trying to get into them.

    Why do you think people elected Trump? Because Vladimir Putin told them to do so. That’s what made them think he’d be okay. But he’s a Russian agent. Probably an Iranian agent, too.

    Trump is putting tariffs on the poor, innocent, defenceless Red Chinese, so that we can’t buy them at Walmart any more. His wife is from Slovenia. He must have bought her in the slave market at Ljubljana, and smuggled her in Air Force One.

    Time to impeach him: before he wins another election. And don’t wait another minute! For it could be a landslide next time.

    Essays in Idleness by David Warren
    https://www.davidwarrenonline.com/2019/07/16/omigod-chronicles/

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  4. Thank you Toma -it is spot-on and brilliantly funny.

    He is a genius.

    David Warren has a new blog — that won’t really be a blog
    September 29, 2012 By Kathy Shaidle

    If you’ve missed him in the pages of the Ottawa Citizen, now you can read him regularly at his new online home.

    Our ambition is to try a blog entitled “Essays in Idleness”; which hyperlinks only sparingly, & always with caution to the MSM; which does not celebrate the incursion of “events”; which may sneer at “breaking news,” ignore the polls, & give no advice in an election; which makes statements that could actually be contradicted, but only by someone who knows something; which rebels against the oppression of “democracy”; then flees from its howling mobs. (…)

    Fifteen continuous years assembling daily newspaper columns as a political pundit, & we achieved what? Approximately two million wasted words. For the world was not listening to our instructions; & anyway should not have, in our candid review. We pray to our Lord that by His grace instead, somewhere in the dark, we lit one holy candle.


    Read more at https://www.fivefeetoffury.com/2012/09/29/david-warren-has-a-new-blog-that-wont-really-be-a-blog/#QKPxXutTzhsTASqy.99

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  5. Trump's wife was not born in the US. She was an illegal immigrant who had an anchor baby. She has been living in the US 20 plus years and still speaks broken English (to be fair, living with her husband affords her little opportunity to improve her language skills). And not only that, she can be seen with her bits out all over the internet, making her an immoral influence. This woman really needs to get back to the crap country she came from. Fix it up, then come back and show us how it's done.

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    1. Nuttier than a fruitcake.

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    2. Slovenia is a wonderful Catholic country, very beautiful, very old and in many ways much more civilised and with far fewer problems than the USA, but its aristocracy and elite were destroyed by Bolshevism.

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  6. "Nuttier than a fruitcake." What an original and devastating riposte.

    I am not crazy about those Congresswomen, but all but one were all born in America. Ayanna Pressley is from Cincinnati -- that's about as midwest heartland American as you can get.

    Trump raised lies about Obama being born in Kenya too. He promised to investigate them and never did. Although the legislators are leftists, Obama was tough on immigration and deported hundreds of thousands. The only reason Trump floats the idea that these politicians are foreign is because they aren't white.

    Melania came to the US on an Einstein visa (ha) and then brought her whole family here. Exactly what Trump condemns others for doing.

    And yes, the Democrats handle this challenge poorly. No one else in US politics behaves this way. It's hard to know how to react. Obama ignoring the birther garbage for a year caused damage. Calling Trump out is probably better although yes, too theatrical and martyred for my taste. Too much drama these days all around.

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    1. The Immigration and Nationality Act 1965 or Hart–Celler Act was amended in Congress so that family members could enter the USA. This was intended to encourage white immigrants but had the opposite effect.

      I thought at first 'Build the wall' was demagoguery, but it obviously is not. America has effectively an open border and is being invaded via Mexico.

      I am sure a lot of Trump supporters do not like the proportion of white Americans in the population falling rapidly. I expect many Democrats do not but I really do not know. I was told (by one) that African Americans are not keen on too many immigrants either.

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    2. If Caroline you are, as I think, an American perhaps you could correct me if I am wrong.

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    3. President Trump tweeted (on July 14):

      "Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how it is done. These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough."

      No mention of race there, of course. Sounds to me like an invitation to the radical Congresswomen to start behaving like grown-ups and taking some responsibility for the absurd policy proposals that they throw around so recklessly. The Green New Deal for Somalia? I can only think it would take the impoverished Somalis from mere poverty to total destitution and starvation. But the “squad” thinks the Green New Deal is imperative for the U.S. Then why shouldn’t it also be the right policy path for Somalia? And if this plan is the route to a perfected world, what’s wrong with suggesting that its leading advocates bring some influence to bear on Somalia (or Palestine or Mexico) to implement their prescriptions? The backdrop of proposing Somalia for the GND seems to me like an excellent basis for an intelligent conversation about what policies might actually work in the real world.

      Manhattan Contrarian by Francis Menton

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    4. Masterful trolling - which is why, for all his lies, lack of general knowledge, lack of professionalism and general unpleasantness, those who love him love him.

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    5. 'those who love him love him...'

      ...because he's fighting back.

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    6. This is the game:

      Donald Trump at Wrestlemania XXIII

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMKFIHRpe7I

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    7. “It’s surely not about the man at this point. It stopped being about Trump long ago. It is about that counter-punch that has been missing from our culture for far too long.”

      A gentleman in Kansas City
      http://peggynoonan.com/the-2020-democrats-lack-hindsight/

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  7. caroline18 July 2019 at 00:38
    Trump's wife was not born in the US. She was an illegal immigrant

    caroline20 July 2019 at 18:48
    Melania came to the US on an Einstein visa (ha)

    Fruitcake.

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  8. Not aiming for accuracy. I am paraphrasing the ignorant people who toss racist tropes and lies around, as they did with Obama. There is some word that Melania was here illegally and then got an Einstein visa. She is no Einstein, unless Einstein posed nude on the internet.

    Donald just called Rep Elijah Cummings' district in Maryland "infested." Part of it is poor, but part of it is affluent. He knows nothing about the place but Donald likes to call anyplace black people live dirty "shitholes." I am not particularly liberal or "woke" but even I recognize this as pretty racist. And not worthy of a president.

    Fruit is good for you. I am sure the mother with whom you probably live serves her grown-up boy fatty stew.

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  9. To clarify: She came as an illegal. Stayed on an Einstein.

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  10. To answer Paul's question...I do not want unlimited immigration in the US and feel that many in the Democratic Party are unrealistically lenient on the matter.

    Added note: I am also not a fan of the Green New Deal or Ilhan Omar. But she is an American congresswoman and she was elected to propose policies for America, not Somalia (that poor place -- I lived there as a child before it became such a trouble spot. It was very quiet and still sort of Italian).

    However I find it disturbing to address immigration and nonwhites with insults and rank rudeness theway Trump does. He impugns people who came here, contribute and play by the rules. There are quite a few.

    Trolling makes some people feel gleeful and it gives a certain pleasure. From
    a president it can feel disgusting.

    Trump does not mention race. He doesn't have to. Everyone knows what and who he means.

    America has lived with large numbers of nonwhite people a lot longer than Europe has. It makes the situation easier in some ways and more fraught in others.

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