Tuesday, 1 October 2019

An Unpopular Article

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I recommend this 'unpopular article' written in favour of freedom of speech and tolerance. What surprised me is that though the author, Craig Murray, is a Liberal Democrat he appears to be both a genuine liberal and a democrat.
'I had the misfortune to see Jess Phillips on BBC Breakfast TV yesterday morning and she gave, as an example of abuse of MPs the fact that every time she speaks about anti-semitism in the Labour Party she receives emails stating that she is exaggerating, or is a puppet of Israel. A great deal of what MPs plainly see as abusive online activity looks to me simply like people expressing their disagreement. People can be entirely right or entirely wrong in their views, but they still have a right to express them to Members of Parliament. I found Ms Phillips objection to people expressing disagreement deeply worrying.

'I have no doubt MPs do receive death threats – I do myself sometimes, generally originating in Florida for some strange reason. But I do wonder how much exaggeration there is of this.

'The Laura Kuenssberg case is seminal here. You may recall that 35,000 people signed a 38 Degrees petition calling for her removal for pro-Tory bias and after a major headline news campaign headed by the Guardian and BBC, claiming that the petition was full of abusive and misogynistic comments, 38 Degrees deleted the petition. However I went through all the comments personally and could only find one comment and a single related tweet which was in any way abusive or misogynistic. When I challenge 38 Degrees to produce the evidence of abuse, there was none. That was a very worrying example of the limiting of perfectly legitimate protest against Kuenssberg, on an excuse of “abusive social media” which was a lie.'


In a comparable way, after Cathy Newman looked an idiot because of the unfair way in which she interviewed Jordan Peterson (it went viral and he became world famous), her boss, the editor of Channel 4 News, said she had been subjected to “vicious misogynistic abuse” online but we were shown no evidence of the abuse. He said they had to call in security specialists which was a “terrible indictment of the times we live in”, the effect of which was to suggest that many people who admire Jordan Peterson are thought criminals and potentially violent criminals too. Dr Peterson then told people to 'back off' which, as he admitted afterwards, meant he fell into a trap by giving the impression that he was directing an army of angry misogynists.


I enjoyed and recommend Craig Murray's book on Uzbekistan, where he was British Ambassador and caused a big scandal. I was interested by his scepticism about whether Assad's use of chemical weapons but was not persuaded by his idea that the Russian alleged spies, accused of the Salisbury poisonings, were innocent tourists and probably homosexual lovers.

10 comments:

  1. A great deal of what MPs plainly see as abusive online activity looks to me simply like people expressing their disagreement.

    These days disagreeing with the liberal social agenda is hate speech. Expressing any doubts about the wisdom of mass immigration is hate speech. Expressing any doubts about climate change is hate speech. And in Britain it seems that disagreeing with politicians is hate speech.

    It's hard to know whether liberals really are incapable of dealing with disagreement or whether it's the cry-bully thing - they pretend to be traumatised by it as an excuse for forbidding disagreement.

    I'm inclined to think it's the latter - they're bullies rather than snowflakes.

    Mind you, if you spend any time on alt-right or dissident right online forums you'll encounter the same mindset. If you disagree with anything they say you're a commie.

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  2. LE MONDE:

    Enquête ouverte contre Eric Zemmour pour « injures publiques » et « provocation à la haine »

    Dans un discours à l’islamophobie revendiquée, le polémiste s’en était pris, entre autres, aux immigrés « colonisateurs » et à « l’islamisation de la rue ».

    Trois jours après les propos très controversés du polémiste Eric Zemmour sur l’immigration et l’islam lors d’un événement d’extrême droite diffusé en direct sur LCI, le parquet de Paris a annoncé, mardi 1er octobre, l’ouverture d’une enquête pour « injures publiques en raison de l’origine ou de l’appartenance ou de la non-appartenance à une ethnie, une nation, une race ou une religion déterminée » et « provocation publique à la discrimination, la haine ou la violence ». Les investigations ont été confiées à la brigade de répression de la délinquance contre la personne (BRDP).

    https://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2019/10/01/une-enquete-ouverte-contre-eric-zemmour-pour-injures-publiques-et-provocation-a-la-haine_6013780_3224.html

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  3. Thank you. I found this on the BBC from 2001.

    "First of all there were the deconstructionist philosophers of the 1960s, who said that everything was social and therefore artificial.

    "Then that philosophy was carried into the national bloodstream via the intermediary of derision. The greatest example is our comic Coluche.

    "With his amazing talent, Coluche undermined the structures of French society - nation, family, police. When he ran for the presidency in 1981, he was supported by the well-known deconstructionist philosophers. That says it all.

    "So after deconstruction, and then derision, we are now in the phase of destruction. It is what I call the three Ds."

    But isn't "destruction" putting it a bit strongly? After all, France is still standing tall among the nations. Just about.

    "Not at all. The sovereignty of the nation has disappeared. The state no longer has the power to revive the economy, or to defend our borders. The state is powerless.

    "There are parts of France which feel like a different continent today. There are neighbourhoods which are completely Muslim - in their appearance, in their shops, in their tradition.

    "And at the same time we have the constant process of Americanisation. Our budget is controlled by Brussels. We have no currency. Our army has to follow Washington's orders.

    "That is what I mean by destruction."

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  4. '[Renaud] Camus was ostracised from French literary society after he said he would vote for the far-right's Marine Le Pen at the last election. Lacking a publisher, he now produces his own books.

    '"It's absurd, because in most things there is nothing right wing about me. But I just happen to think that today's immigration is the most important thing to have happened to France - ever," he says.'
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30436692

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  5. 'French-Jewish author, TV personality and far-right figure Eric Zemmour has been fined 3,000 euros ($3,300) for provoking religious hatred after making anti-immigrant and Islamophobic remarks in 2016.

    'During a show broadcast on September 6, 2016, on the France 5 television channel, Zemmour had said he believed that Muslims should be given "the choice between Islam and France," and that France had been "colonized" by Muslims for 30 years.

    '"In innumerable French suburbs where many girls are veiled" are playing a "struggle to Islamize a territory," he had also said.'
    https://www.dailysabah.com/islamophobia/2019/09/20/french-far-right-figure-zemmour-fined-3000-euros-over-islamophobic-remarks

    I had forgotten him completely. I like it that he complains about Americanisation as well as Islamisation. He doesn't sound to me far right which means something like Petainist. He sounds to me like Charles de Gaulle, who was very opposed to mass Muslim immigration.

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  6. This is a quotation from De Gaulle:

    'Those who advocate integration have the brain of a hummingbird. Try to mix oil and vinegar. Shake the bottle. After a second, they will separate again. Arabs are Arabs, the French are French. Do you think the French body politic can absorb ten million Muslims, who tomorrow will be twenty million, after tomorrow forty? If we integrated, if all the Arabs and Berbers of Algeria were considered French, would you prevent them to settle in France, where the standard of living is so much higher? My village would no longer be called Colombey-The-Two-Churches but Colombey-The-Two-Mosques.'

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    1. Zemmour would be in jail if he dared to quote that in public.
      His speech was so tame... I almost fell asleep listening:

      Discours d'Eric Zemmour à la Convention de la Droite
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=ShnG7yThD7o

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    2. The speech by Eric Zemmour, delivered in Paris on September 28, en trans:

      https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/eric-zemmour-blockbuster-speech/

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  7. Marine Le Pen was charged with hate speech for saying people felt that their country was under occupation. The charges were dropped just before the Charlie Hebdo masacre.

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    1. "The biggest polemical gun of the Right is Éric Zemmour, author of Le Suicide Français, for many months the bestselling book in France. He is a Jew whose refugee parents fled Algeria, a man who likely knows more French history than anyone else who appears on the country’s airwaves. He has knack for going up to the edge of what is considered acceptable discourse, only to then be accused of going over the line."

      Marion Maréchal’s Populism is the Future of the French Right
      By SCOTT MCCONNELL • October 3, 2019
      https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/marion-marechals-populism-is-the-future-of-the-french-right/

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