Saturday, 4 April 2020

Cheerful news

This is a time when even contrarians have to become team players. I want everyone in countries that are in lockdown because of the Covid-19 virus (everywhere in Europe except Sweden, Belarus and Iceland) to obey the rules, stay at home as much as they can and keep away from other people, as people in Romania are doing. The economy is closed down, with enormous damage and hardship - if the virus nevertheless continues to spread we are in the worst of all worlds.

On the other hand, a sizable number of virologists and epidemiologists do not agree that the virus is a great threat to humanity. 

Here is another one. Professor John Oxford, virologist, Professor of Queen Mary's College, London, a leading expert on influenza, including bird flu and the 1918 Spanish flu, and HIV/AIDS, who says


"Personally, I would say the best advice is to spend less time watching TV news which is sensational and not very good. Personally, I view this Covid outbreak as akin to a bad winter influenza epidemic. In this case we have had 8000 deaths this last year in the ‘at risk’ groups viz over 65% people with heart disease etc. I do not feel this current Covid will exceed this number. We are suffering from a media epidemic!"
I am not sure when he said it. Britain looks likely to reach 8,000 deaths of people with the virus in a week or so. The professor could ask how many are dying from it, rather than with it, which is by no means a pedantic point, and argue that most are in the former group. His point bout not watching TV news is a good one. It probably applies to most of the news.

But not all of the printed media. It would be a pity to miss out on another reason for hope, from the usually very saturnine Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, in today's Telegraph.


On one level, the immediate global shock is much greater than the onset of world wars. On another, a ‘sudden stop’ for three months is mostly an accounting mirage, so long as governments absorb the hit and productive economies are kept whole.


Ben Bernanke, ex-head of the US Federal Reserve, likens it to a winter shutdown from a polar vortex. There is some permanent loss but pent-up demand and a V-shaped recovery later claws back most of the lost GDP. Catch-up growth gradually pulls down the public debt ratio.

The stoppage does not fundamentally matter in macroeconomic terms unless we repeat the errors of austerity overkill and listen to those telling us that it is all too expensive. Thankfully these voices are being ignored in the US, UK, China, Japan, and Europe (with big caveats).

14 comments:

  1. If you object to calling it the Chinese Virus, let's call it the Globalist Virus. There is a reason the epicenter of Covid-19 moved first to Western Europe and then to America - because the west is the most afflicted by diversity unto death. Even the Mexicans have figured out that, while open borders are useful for exporting drugs and low-skilled Mexicans into America, the cost-benefit analysis changes when it comes to importing diseased Americans and death into Mexico.

    Are we ready to do serious cost-benefit analysis?

    The most significant change after 9/11 - "the day the world changed" - was the doubling of the rate of Muslim immigration to the west. Will we do the same now? More open borders, more flights from Shanghai and Beijing, more transfer of what's left of western manufacturing to the Chinese Communist Party, more shrieks of "Raaaaacist!" at any questioning of Beijing's official lies, never mind whether any advanced nation needs mass immigration or unscreened self-identified "refugees"...

    The changes we make this time will be existential. We are suffused in death not only because of Chinese lies but because of those we tell ourselves, suppler and more beguiling as they are. "Preparedness" does not mean merely PPE and ICU, but requires also addressing borders and immigration and political correctness, and diversity unto death. In much of the western world, we are shutting down the economy and daily life, because our rulers could not bear to shut down their own virtue-signaling diversity bollocks.

    Will it go the same next time? Absent serious sustained pushback, what do you think?

    https://www.steynonline.com/10168/the-preparedness-of-the-24-7-surveillance-state

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  2. Thank you Toma! I looked half heartedly to see what he had written on the virus but find his site confusing. The fact that left-wingers object to Donald Trump calling the virus the Chinese virus (c.f. Asian Flu, Hong Kong Flu, Spanish Flu) is very telling. Joe Biden condemned Mr Trump's decision to stop flights from China in January.
    Mark Levine, the Democrat "Chair" of New York City Council health committee felt he was on the side of history when he tweeted on 9 February:


    In powerful show of defiance of #coronavirus scare, huge crowds gathering in NYC's Chinatown for ceremony ahead of annual #LunarNewYear parade. Chants of "be strong Wuhan!"


    If you are staying away, you are missing out!

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    1. Steyn in for Rush Today at 7

      https://www.wntk.com/listen-live

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    2. Thanks. I got strange American radio advertisements but now I hear the sainted Steyn.

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    3. He is brilliant isn't he? I must listen to the whole thing on his site. I dare say he will post it on his site.

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    4. The ads are charming and small town. The anti Biden ad was very funny.

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    5. Guest Host Mark Steyn
      Apr 6, 2020

      https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2020/04/06/guest-host-mark-steyn-20-2-2/

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    6. Cardinal George Pell has been freed from jail after Australia's highest court overturned his convictions for child sexual abuse.

      A full bench of seven judges ruled unanimously in Cardinal Pell's favour, finding the jury had not properly considered all the evidence presented at the trial.

      https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-52183157

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    7. Cardinal Pell's acquittal is very good news - it was the most obvious miscarriage of justice I ever heard of in a normal British-ish country. I think to play the Steyn show again I'd need to pay, wouldn't I?

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  3. On another, a ‘sudden stop’ for three months is mostly an accounting mirage, so long as governments absorb the hit and productive economies are kept whole.

    Ben Bernanke, ex-head of the US Federal Reserve, likens it to a winter shutdown from a polar vortex. There is some permanent loss but pent-up demand and a V-shaped recovery later claws back most of the lost GDP.


    He's overlooking the massive blow to confidence that the large-scale wiping out of small businesses (much of which will be permanent) and the huge surge of unemployment (much of which will be permanent) represents. Economies might survive and recover partially but they'll be like accident victims who never recover fully from their injuries.

    Big business will bounce back. Small business won't. Shareholders will bounce back. Many ordinary people won't.

    He's also overlooking the fact that the economic damage will be just part of the price. Society will never regain its confidence. People will remain pessimistic and anxious. Birth rates will decline sharply, probably permanently. My parents lived through the Great Depression and never really fully recovered from it.

    Economies are made up of people, not just economic indicators. Economists are unable to comprehend this.

    If the shutdown continues too long we will end up with societies that are both poorer and more pessimistic. The economic damage could indirectly push western society into the final stages of a death spiral. And into the final stages of complete demographic collapse.

    And of course there will be loud calls for a massive boost in immigration to get the economy back on its feet.

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  4. 'He is brilliant'

    The End of the World as We Know It, with Mark Steyn
    1,379,765 views•Apr 29, 2010

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQELHJx8Vf0&feature=emb_rel_end

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  5. From the conservative Washington Times, the China ban that didn't really happen.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/mar/22/trump-never-actually-banned-flights-from-china-or-/

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