Dr. Sean Gabb (Richard Blake):
On a group called Open Florida
In the short term, we are looking at a repeat of the 1930s on steroids. I did think, when the lockdown started, that it would be a brief supply shock, followed by an immediate recovery. But it's now gone on too long. Many businesses won't re-open. Commerce will begin to flow along new channels, and it will take time for this to show. The long-term effects may be positive - but only in the sense that a forest fire makes room for new growth. I'll add that we've done this on a false prospectus. There has been no mountain of
corpses. The hospitals are empty outside the intensive care units. The whole epidemic has been no worse than the flu season was in 2000. Those countries like Sweden and South Korea that avoided a lockdown have had similar death rates to our own. We didn't need to shut the country down for three months. We shouldn't have shut it down. But we did. All we can do now is to look forward to a recovery. We might also listen less to scientific advisers who seem to be better at modelling statistics than using their common sense.
On a group called Open Florida
I find it interesting that in an attempt to “slow the spread of CV-19” and efforts to “protect” the elderly and most vulnerable, we have shifted the damage and injury to the Healthiest and most Productive segment of our society. Let that sink in.
The youngest and healthiest will be impacted by loss of opportunity, jobs, debts that can’t be paid, foreclosures, scarcity of resources, expanding poverty, hunger, etc.
What started as an effort to not overwhelm the hospitals, is no longer valid in my opinion, because the hospitals across the nation are basically empty, and they are furloughing and reducing staff, in some cases as much as 70%. If this is so bad, why are healthcare workers some of the first to lose their jobs? Even in NYC at the epicenter! Look it up...
Some medical opinions suggest that the best way to deal with a respiratory virus, is by herd immunity. Meaning you keep the schools open so all the kids and parents get exposed, have mild colds, then they are immune, the weak and elderly should be protected for 30-45 days while this herd immunity is building, then they can resume normal activity because the virus would basically have played itself out.
It has been widely practiced for centuries that infirm people were brought to the seashore to heal. The fresh salty air, sunshine and exercise promotes health and healing. But our beaches are closed and we are under orders to “stay safer at home”. Completely contrary to wisdom in my opinion.
I really haven’t seen any news about things people can do to boost their immune system. Doctors used to suggest healthy diets, vitamin C, exercise, keeping a positive attitude, etc. Now all we hear about is some yucky vaccine that doesn’t exist yet. To top it off, all the healthy alternative stores are closed as “non essential”. Why does this feel like a set up for failure?
All the news seems to portray this as a death sentence if you catch it, but the statistics show that ~85% +/- of people get better on their own.
South Korea used widespread testing, which the US has nowhere in place, pace President Trump's frequent declarations that we do or will have any minute now. Sweden has a robust public health care system installed, which the US also lacks. Part of the reason Americans are afraid of the virus is the fear of being stuck with a massive bill that will bankrupt them for the rest of their lives.
ReplyDeleteI would pay more attention to the back-to-work brigade here in the US if they were not such an odd and frightful bunch. Protestors carrying semiautomatic weapons. The 81-year-old mayor of Las Vegas, missing her barstool and smokes and clearly panicked about her dead-in-the-water casino investment portfolio. President Trump, who today mused about injecting lungs with disinfectant -- he is starting to scare even his diehard adherents. And in the UK, Boris Johnson, who pooh-poohed the risks of coronavirus until becoming very sick.
No one likes this shutdown but its opponents do not inspire confidence.
You may well be right in what you say but you make a mistake about Boris. He made an initial decision to go for herd immunity, on advice, though he also received advice to go for a lockdown from the start. He made a choice and might or might not have been right. Observe closely Sweden and Belarus.
DeleteI would pay more attention to the back-to-work brigade here in the US if they were not such an odd and frightful bunch.
DeleteThe American Right is incredibly ugly. And the American far right even uglier.
I'm not sure what the US can do. They've mishandled the crisis so spectacularly that they're left with no good options. And in the US both sides of the coronavirus debate are insanely politicised. Their country is pretty much ungovernable at this point.
What's really weird is the way new political fault lines are emerging. The American far right has divided into Corona Sceptic and Corona Panic wings. Both wings are equally hysterical and equally driven by emotion and ideology rather than reason.
The US is a Third World country with nukes.
Terrible damage was done under the Younger Bush. Obama was pretty awful though much better than his predecessor. But as Adam Smith said there's a “great deal of ruin in a nation,” by which he meant that it takes an awful lot of stupidity by political leaders to bring down a powerful and prosperous state. Even Hitler didn't destroy Germany. But Communism may have destroyed Russia in many ways.
DeleteBut Communism may have destroyed Russia in many ways.
DeleteCommunism wasn't great but it did, ironically, save Christianity. Christianity is still alive in Russia and a few of the Eastern European countries. It's effectively dead in Western Europe. Communism is also, again ironically, the reason that social conservatism is still a viable force in Russia and Eastern Europe. Christianity and social conservative values can survive communism but they can't survive capitalism.
Russia today appears to be a functional society, more so than either the US or Britain. And Russia is certainly well governed compared to the US.
I don't think the US can survive long term. Their political system is too flawed and too corrupt. It's not a matter of having the occasional bad president. They have a system that makes bad presidents inevitable, and makes bad corrupt legislatures inevitable. The US probably won't collapse but it's going to become more and more dysfunctional, more and more like a Third World country with Third World institutions.
You have to remember that the US was built on liberal principles which were deeply flawed from the start.
Australia was incredibly lucky getting a constitution that was a deliberate blending of the British and American systems. We managed to avoid the worst features of both systems. Thank God that Australians, when given the opportunity, rejected republicanism.
Even Hitler didn't destroy Germany.
DeleteI actually think that he did destroy Germany. Postwar Germany might have become rich but there's a sickness at its heart. Hitler made it impossible for Germans to ever feel good about being German. Given the chance they'll destroy themselves and they'll do so consciously and deliberately.
You could even argue that Hitler destroyed western European civilisation. He left it an empty shell.
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Ce n'est pas parce que Notre Seigneur Jesus-Christ nous a qualifié de troupeau que nous devons nous comporter comme des moutons.
Sweet and true.
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