A Political Refugee From The Global Village : I knew this, but many blithely say Britain has always been an immigrant country, because this is what they are constantly told

Friday, 25 July 2025

I knew this, but many blithely say Britain has always been an immigrant country, because this is what they are constantly told

"There has been more immigration into Britain every single year since 1997 than there was IN THE WHOLE PERIOD from the Anglo-Saxons in the 5th and 6th centuries through to the Second World War” Paul Moreland

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Anonymous25 July 2025 at 23:40
Yeah, I've come to the same conclusions by studying the 1921 census. There's this hilarious article (https://www.findmypast.co.uk/blog/history/diversity-and-diaspora-in-the-1921-census) that tries to convince us that the census implied "diversity" in England and Wales with grandiose claims of 3.4% diversity. And then you look at the table of origin and see that two-thirds of them came from the British Isles! And then 99% of the rest are all (other) British colonies or diaspora nations, which were undoubtedly British natives returning home.

Do you have the link to the origin of the quote please? I can't find it. A lot of people have been talking about this recently in timeframes and vague qualitative statements* like the OP, but I'm looking for exact years and numbers that can't be denied.

Either way, you're right of course. First, they moved the founding myth of England from 500-600 AD to 1066 so they could claim we were Norman transplants/hybrids and we didn't have a culture or distinct people beforehand. Then they abandoned 1066 as well. Best case scenario, it was a response to the realisation that the Normans only changed the genetics of Britain by about 1% (and that they were our genetic cousins anyway). More realistic case, 1066 was too long ago and gives us the right to claim the legendary indigenous status (especially given that the "indigenous" New Zealanders have been on NZ for a much shorter time).

* One I heard the other day was that there's been more change to the pop. genetics of England in the last 10 years than the thousand years prior to 1950. I've also seen an exact estimate/number of 99.8% indigenous in 1950, but it was sadly unsourced.
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Toma27 July 2025 at 15:39
These are the heroes that despise the Dutch,
And rail at new-come foreigners so much;
Forgetting that themselves are all derived
From the most scoundrel race that ever lived;
A horrid crowd of rambling thieves and drones
Who ransack'd kingdoms, and dispeopled towns;
The Pict and painted Briton, treach'rous Scot,
By hunger, theft, and rapine, hither brought;
Norwegian pirates, buccaneering Danes,
Whose red-hair'd offspring everywhere remains;
Who, join'd with Norman French, compound the breed
From whence your true-born Englishmen proceed.

And lest, by length of time, it be pretended,
The climate may this modern breed have mended;
Wise Providence, to keep us where we are,
Mixes us daily with exceeding care;
We have been Europe's sink, the jakes, where she
Voids all her offal out-cast progeny;
From our fifth Henry's time the strolling bands,
Of banish'd fugitives from neighb'ring lands,
Have here a certain sanctuary found:
The eternal refuge of the vagabond,
Where in but half a common age of time,
Borrowing new blood and manners from the clime,
Proudly they learn all mankind to contemn,
And all their race are true-born Englishmen.

Dutch Walloons, Flemmings, Irishmen, and Scots,
Vaudois, and Valtolins, and Hugonots,
In good Queen Bess's charitable reign,
Supplied us with three hundred thousand men:
Religion—God, we thank thee!—sent them hither,
Priests, Protestants, the devil, and all together;
Of all professions, and of ev'ry trade,
All that were persecuted or afraid:
Whether for debt, or other crimes, they fled,
David at Hackelah was still their head.

The civil wars, the common purgative,
Which always use to make the nation thrive,
Made way for all that strolling congregation,
Which throng'd in pious Charles's restoration.
The royal refugee our breed restores,
With foreign courtiers, and with foreign whores:
And carefully re-peopled us again,
Throughout his lazy, long, lascivious reign,
With such a blest and true-born English fry,
As much illustrates our nobility.
A gratitude which will so black appear,
As future ages must abhor to bear:
When they look back on all that crimson flood,
Which stream'd in Lindsey's, and Caernarvon's blood;
Bold Strafford, Cambridge, Capel, Lucas, Lisle,
Who crown'd in death his father's fun'ral pile.
The loss of whom, in order to supply
With true-born English nobility,
Six bastard dukes survive his luscious reign,
The labours of Italian Castlemain,
French Portsmouth, Tabby Scott, and Cambrian;
Besides the num'rous bright and virgin throng,
Whose female glories shade them from my song.
This offspring if our age they multiply,
May half the house with English peers supply:
There with true English pride they may contemn
Schomberg and Portland, new-made noblemen.

French cooks, Scotch pedlars, and Italian whores,
Were all made lords or lords' progenitors.
Beggars and bastards by this new creation
Much multiplied the peerage of the nation;
Who will be all, ere one short age runs o'er,
As true-born lords as those we had before.

THE TRUE-BORN ENGLISHMAN
Daniel Defoe, 1701
https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/30159/pg30159-images.html
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Political Refugee from the Global Village31 July 2025 at 15:37
Academic and journalist Matt Goodwin in his latest newsletter.

I’m talking about the latest population figures from the UK’s Office for National Statistics which, in my view, paint a truly shocking and disturbing picture of the sheer pace and scale at which England and Wales are being transformed.

What’s the headline story?

That last year —in one year alone— the population of England and Wales surged by another 707,000 people —an increase of some 1.2 per cent in a single year.

That’s the second largest annual increase in more than 75 years —it really is historic and reflects the ongoing ‘population explosion’ that’s taking place.

To put that annual growth figure of 707,000 people in perspective, consider this.

Between Margaret Thatcher’s election, in 1979, and the arrival of Tony Blair, in 1997, the annual rate of population increase in England and Wales never surpassed 188,000 in a single year and averaged out, over the whole period, at 111,000 people each year.

Then, during the Blair and Brown years, between 1997 and 2010, the annual rate of population increase peaked at 457,000, in 2010 and averaged 305,000 every year.

Then, during the 2010s, between the election of David Cameron, in 2010, and Boris Johnson, in 2019, it peaked at 479,000 people, in 2011, averaging 408,000 a year, equivalent to adding a city the size of Leicester in just one year.
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Friday, 25 July 2025

I knew this, but many blithely say Britain has always been an immigrant country, because this is what they are constantly told

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