The war in Ukaraine could not have been continued without Musk's Starlink being used for targeting drones and missiles, including the thousands directed against civilian targets in the Russian mainland.
Musk and the Tech Bros love to display their bleeding hearts and moral angst about the gross atrocities of this world - few of which would have happened without their continued active and profitable cooperation.
Helping ng the Ukrainian government which has been attacked seems fine but trying with spies and murderers to provoke a change of government in another country is not.
@PRGV - That would be an uncontroversially valid description only we start counting in February 2022, ignore NATO (etc) documents and actions over many preceding years, and accept the Western official framing of the conflict; considerably before the overt West-takeover of Ukr in 2014.
But you already know Berletic's work - so I presume you are unconvinced by his evidence (which is publicly available, including to Rus) for the long-term US/EU/ NATO intentions of how the Ukr was made a fortress nation with by-far the biggest and most formidable military in Western Europe - then deployed against Russia (and Russians).
In such a context starkly to state that Ukr was, eventually, "attacked" - seems to be raising a broadly-valid guideline wrt the justice of wars, to a an unique and morally simplistic (and therefore false) status of absolute primacy.
I don't offhand remember what Mr Berletic said about Ukraine but I would agree with your summary of what he thinks. Yes I do think the invasion was unjust and illegal like the US attacks on Iraq Libya Venezuela and Iran..Being simplistic can be principled.
If international law is dismissed as hot air why did England and France go to war with Germany twice last century? I say that regretting very much that we did so.
I have just been arguing with a holy fool who has written books about Anglicanism and says the US killing of 49 Iranian leaders was just and nobody cares about international lawyers' vapouring.
Russia has made something of a signature in attacking civilian targets — it could never have won the Chechen war without inducing massive civilian deaths.
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The war in Ukaraine could not have been continued without Musk's Starlink being used for targeting drones and missiles, including the thousands directed against civilian targets in the Russian mainland.
ReplyDeleteMusk and the Tech Bros love to display their bleeding hearts and moral angst about the gross atrocities of this world - few of which would have happened without their continued active and profitable cooperation.
Helping ng the Ukrainian government which has been attacked seems fine but trying with spies and murderers to provoke a change of government in another country is not.
Delete@PRGV - That would be an uncontroversially valid description only we start counting in February 2022, ignore NATO (etc) documents and actions over many preceding years, and accept the Western official framing of the conflict; considerably before the overt West-takeover of Ukr in 2014.
DeleteBut you already know Berletic's work - so I presume you are unconvinced by his evidence (which is publicly available, including to Rus) for the long-term US/EU/ NATO intentions of how the Ukr was made a fortress nation with by-far the biggest and most formidable military in Western Europe - then deployed against Russia (and Russians).
In such a context starkly to state that Ukr was, eventually, "attacked" - seems to be raising a broadly-valid guideline wrt the justice of wars, to a an unique and morally simplistic (and therefore false) status of absolute primacy.
I don't offhand remember what Mr Berletic said about Ukraine but I would agree with your summary of what he thinks. Yes I do think the invasion was unjust and illegal like the US attacks on Iraq Libya Venezuela and Iran..Being simplistic can be principled.
DeleteNo illegal wars is a hill worth dying on or rather not dying on. I stole that joke from Tim Stanley of the Daily Telegraph.
DeleteIf international law is dismissed as hot air why did England and France go to war with Germany twice last century? I say that regretting very much that we did so.
DeleteI have just been arguing with a holy fool who has written books about Anglicanism and says the US killing of 49 Iranian leaders was just and nobody cares about international lawyers' vapouring.
DeleteFortunately international law doesn't care about people's feelings.
DeleteRussia has made something of a signature in attacking civilian targets — it could never have won the Chechen war without inducing massive civilian deaths.
ReplyDeleteTrue about Chechnya and Syria. Not really true about Ukraine nearly so much.
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