Saturday 20 November 2021

The Nazis, Napoleon, the Kaisers and compulsory vaccination

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The decision by Austria to have another lockdown was a big surprise to me but it is, I suppose, what one should expect. Her decision to make vaccination against Covid compulsory shocked me very much, but people who say this is reminiscent of the Nazis are mistaken.

An article in The Daily Telegraph explains that the world’s first vaccine was developed against smallpox in 1798. 
Bavaria, which had become a kingdom the year before, was the first place to make vaccination compulsory in 1807. This, the article says, two years later led to an armed rebellion in the Northern Tyrol, then in Bavaria, now part of Austria, led by Andreas Hofer, who opposed the vaccine for religious reasons. 17,000 people died in the rebellion.

Great Britain made smallpox vaccination compulsory from 1853 till 1971 and the second German Reich did so in 1874. Then as now there were plenty of people who opposed vaccines.

The Nazis inherited the compulsory vaccination law, but fearing they might stir up resistance they did not enforce it and in 1940 they effectively made vaccination optional. Compulsory vaccination for smallpox returned to Germany and Austria after 1945. 

Research on the net reveals that it was Napoleon, not Hitler, who enforced compulsory vaccinations. 

Hofer's rebellion was part of the war against Napoleon. I had heard of Hofer and his revolt, but did not know vaccines played a role in his story. 

The Encyclopaedia Britannica entry about him does not mention vaccines nor does Wikipedia, and there is almost nothing about it on the net except a tendentious article in my least favourite magazine The Atlantic, but as the Daily Telegraph says so I suppose vaccines were a factor in the revolt. 

Gentle reader, especially gentle reader reading German, can you tell us more?

17 comments:

  1. Vaccinated people under 60 are twice as likely to die as unvaccinated people. And overall deaths in Britain are running well above normal.

    Alex Berenson, Unreported Truths
    https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/vaccinated-english-adults-under-60?

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    1. "Vaccinated people under 60 are twice as likely to die as unvaccinated people." That doesn't reveal anything, because it's very likely the two groups are not comparable. For example, it's more likely that sickly, or frail people with underlying conditions are more likely to get the vaccine than those without any health issues. If the vaccinated are dying at higher rates, we have no way of knowing if it's due to the vaccine, or to other factors which had led to their choice to take the vaccine in the first place.

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    2. Vaccinated English adults under 60 are dying at twice the rate of unvaccinated people the same age.

      And have been for six months.

      I don’t know how to explain this other than vaccine-caused mortality.

      This chart may seem unbelievable or impossible, but it's correct, based on weekly data from the British government:

      https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/vaccinated-english-adults-under-60?

      The basic data is available here, download the Excel file and see table 4:

      https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/deathsbyvaccinationstatusengland



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    3. "it's more likely that sickly, or frail people with underlying conditions are more likely to get the vaccine"

      Vaccinations in United Kingdom

      Latest available data

      People vaccinated
      First dose total
      50,734,556Value: 50734556 — Abstract information: Total number of people who have received the first dose of COVID-19 vaccine, reported up to Friday, 19 November 2021.

      Second dose total
      46,129,532Value: 46129532 — Abstract information: Total number of people who have received the second dose of COVID-19 vaccine, reported up to Friday, 19 November 2021.

      Booster or third dose total
      14,614,613Value: 14614613 — Abstract information: Total number of people who have received a booster or third dose of COVID-19 vaccine, reported up to Friday, 19 November 2021.

      Vaccinations given
      Total
      111,478,701

      https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/vaccinations

      You're stuck on stupid?

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    4. UK Data Shows No All-Cause Mortality Benefit for COVID-19 Vaccines
      Mathew Crawford
      https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/uk-data-shows-no-all-cause-mortality?

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    5. That data does not tell me that causality pertains to biology [else, I do not dare infer, for what it does not matter by the same argument often told of voting: ie. 'choose, as it does not matter']

      - attempted humour

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    6. TheVidra21 November 2021 at 08:42

      'it's more likely that sickly, or frail people with underlying conditions are more likely to get the vaccine'

      The popular belief that sick people are more likely to be vaccinated than healthy people is entirely wrong.

      People who receive vaccines are healthier overall than those who do not. They care more about avoiding sickness, and they have the time and energy and money to find their way to a vaccination site. They are not healthier because they get vaccines; they get vaccines because they are healthier.

      Older people who receive flu vaccines die - of both the flu and all causes - at much lower rates than unvaccinated people after they receive flu shots. But they also die at much lower rates BEFORE they receive the vaccines. The seminal study demonstrating this relationship is now more than 15 years old; it was published in the International Journal of Epidemiology in April 2006.

      Alex Berenson
      The English data on vaccines and mortality, revisited
      https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/the-english-data-on-vaccines-and/comments?

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  2. Last week, the U.S. surpassed 700,000 Covid-19 deaths, more than any other country.
    More Americans have died from Covid-19 so far in 2021 than in 2020.
    The share of Americans who have received at least one shot of a coronavirus vaccine has risen to 65%.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/marisadellatto/2021/10/06/us-covid-19-deaths-for-2021-surpass-toll-from-2020/

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  3. Abstract 10712: Mrna COVID Vaccines Dramatically Increase Endothelial Inflammatory Markers and ACS Risk as Measured by the PULS Cardiac Test: a Warning

    Steven R Gundry
    Originally published 8 Nov 2021 Circulation
    https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/abs/10.1161/circ.144.suppl_1.10712#

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  4. If the reader you had in mind is me then I am sorry to disappoint. While I know of Andreas Hofer and its status as a folk hero in Tyrol, I don't know anything about his views on vaccination or of them motivating his rebellion.

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    1. I didn't have you in mind specifically but if you had five minutes and could Google the question in German it would be very helpful. Clearly the author of the article had his pro-vaccine axe to grind but we know by now that journalists always have a pro-establishment axe to grind.

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    2. I've found something here: https://www.welt.de/geschichte/article228477591/Andreas-Hofer-Diese-Impfung-provozierte-den-bewaffneten-Aufstand.html

      The situation was more complex though. The Tyrol used to be Habsburg territory. After the defeat of the Habsburgs by the French it was transferred to Bavaria, France's ally. Contrary to Habsburg conservatism, Bavaria was on an Enlightenment-powered modernisation spree. It introduced many reforms and laws, among them registration of lands in a cadastre, taxes to finance the Bavarian garrisons stationed in Tirol, the dissolution of the native armed militias (Schützenverbände), and the mandatory vaccination we are talking about. So yes, the Tiroleans resented it, but it came more in a kind of "package", a kind of cultural shock, after centuries of immobilism in their mountains, modernity is brought in by a foreign power. Perhaps if the Habsburgs ordered the vaccination obligation it would have stirred less opposition.

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    3. I am reading with a few recent polls in mind, that try to establish to what extent these choices are political - as opposed to whatever else beggars belief.

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    4. Herr von Melk thank you very much, very belatedly.

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  5. We are not “vaccine hesitant” or “anti-vax” or “Covid-denying conspiracy theorists.” We are millions of regular working-class people, people with principles, who value freedom, who are not prepared to go gently into the globalized, pathologized-totalitarian night. We no longer give the slightest shit whether our former friends and family members who have gone New Normal understand what this is. We do. We understand exactly what this is. It is a nascent form of totalitarianism, and we intend to kill it — or at least critically wound it — before it matures into a full-grown behemoth.

    Totalitarianism (even this “pathologized” version of it) is imposed on society and maintained with violence. Fighting totalitarianism inevitably entails violence. It is not my preferred tactic in the current circumstances, but it is unavoidable now that we have reached this stage, and it is important that those of fighting this fight recognize that violence is a natural response to the violence (and the implicit threat of violence) that is being deployed against us by the New Normal authorities, and the masses they have whipped up into a fanatical frenzy.

    This isn’t an academic argument over the existence, severity, or the response to a virus. This is a fight to determine the future of our societies.

    CJ
    Pathologized Totalitarianism 101
    https://cjhopkins.substack.com/p/pathologized-totalitarianism-101?

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    1. Terror & the delusion of power cannot wipe their nose, rather literally this once. [I might not be entirely sober this evening, therefore writing too much!]

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  6. 'the original anti-vaxxers'

    https://twitter.com/MahyarTousi/status/1464870780496494592?s=20

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